David, we're talking about the word "graven" as it is used to describe
images... the word you're using is "engraven".

Chad Bresson
Xenia, OH

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Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] faith comes by HEARING


> Chad,
>
> You wrote: Even if they are two parts (they're not), the second part
qualifies the first part.
>
> David: Says you.
>
> Chad:The word "graven" itself cannot be interpreted in any other way than
"fashioned for
> worship".  Worship is inherent to the word itself.
>
> David: I don't know where you get this from.  I just checked the word and
it's "pecel" and it means, idol, image, graven, carved. I think you're
adding a bit to the defintion to suit your purpose.  If you insist that the
word graven cannot be interpreted in ANY other way than "fashioned for
worship" then you have a HUGE problem on your hands, and I will not go any
further in the discussion with you until you address it. Allow me to
demonstrate.
>
> Read this verse and tell me that it MUST fit YOUR way of "only being able
to interpret it as 'fashioned for worship'".
> --"Behold, I have GRAVEN thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are
continually before me."  Isaiah 49:16.  That's God talking sir.  Are you
telling me that God is "fashioning us for worship"????
>
> David
>
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