Sounders Hope you have read the preface and first chapter of NCT ready to start tomorrow. I shall try and make sure that we don't jump the gun so to speak, so keep your comments focused on the passage up for discussion. Perhaps it would be good for folk to mention the things (if any) that you felt were important, that jumped off the page for you - bye the way I hope you read the book with a pencil! If there are any sentences etc that you think were particularly important then feel free to quote them, and perhaps offer a comment or two (not full dissertations!). Then we can begin to see if there are any important principles that can be drawn out of the chapter. Grace to You Neil