Trevor
It was me that gave a very inadequate definition of Biblical theology -
apologies. I did not want to assume that all on the list knew what was
meant by this terminology. Some might have argued "but isn't all
theology meant to be Biblical?" - not appreciating that Biblical
theology is a distinctive aspect of theology.
Grace to you
Neil
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From: The Allin's [mailto:grace@...]
Sent: 22 May 2003 15:25
To: soundofgrace@...
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Wells & Zaspel
What is Biblical theology? Is it "book by book, author by author"
approach to the Bible? I presume this means exegetical in opposition to
thematic (?) Not sure I understand you here Julian.
This would be good to explore if we can. I believe the essence of
bilical theology is the progress of revelation through the unfolding of
the plot line of the Bible. For example, Abraham's seed and how that
moves from Physical Israel to Christ to all true believers. Inheritance
in the OT is seen as Land but land has a spiritual / eternal fulfilment
in the NT. Also blessing being seen as physical prosperity in the OT
but not in the NT. This is a big one because the word faith movement
uses it to justify the prosperity nonsense that it propigates. It seems
also as if the enemy nations in the OT might be a picture of the
principalities and powers in the NT
I was reading Ecclesiasties 9 today and talks it about the dead not
having any knowledge or ability to think etc. That ties in with OT
ideas of inheritance being in the hear and now. But the NT paints a
different picture. Revelation progresses. This is quite difficult
actually, can the OT say things that arn't the case just because
revelation has not progressed that far. And are those scriptures saying
that? Some say no that the point is that they can' think / have
knowledge / praise God on the EARTH - but that seems to be a too obvious
truism to be a credible interpretation.
I know this takes things quite wide, but the real issue us the
relationship of the covenants isn't it?
Every Blessing.
Trevor
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From: soundofgrace@...
Date: 22 May 2003 15:07:41
To: soundofgrace@...
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Wells & Zaspel
Reply to Neil:
1. They set out the main parameters straight away:
".if the NT is the apex of God's revelation, then we ought to read the
earlier parts of Scripture in its light." This point is developed in
Chapter 1 and is surely at the heart of everything that they go on to
say. This is a hermeneutic that is rarely applied today.
Question: Are they right to state this? YES
Question: What dangers do you perceive that such a position might be
accused of? ANTINOMIANISM PRIMARILY
2. "The NT is very explicit in making believers "slaves" of Jesus
Christ."
NCT is at heart "Christo centric."
I AGREE
3. ".a nagging question arises when the law becomes too prominent in
discussions of Christian morals and ethics.Which is the higher
revelation of the character of God, the Ten Commandments or the Person,
work and teaching of Jesus Christ?"
This again is a very important hermeneutical principal.
Question: Are they right to make such a bold statement?
YES BUT RECOGNISING THAT CHRIST EMBODIED THE LAW HOW CAN WE SAY HE IS
OUR PERFECT EXAMPLE-CAN WE SAY HE KEPT THE LAW BY THE SPIRIT AND
FULFILLED NT LAW AND DISCARD THOSE ASPECTS OF HIS OBEDIENCE THAT WERE
FROM THE DECALOGUE AND KEPT FOR US SO WE COULD BE JUSTIFIED?
4. ".the renewed emphasis in our day on exegetical and biblical
theology as the source of systematics." As one who has been blessed to
have been on this list for a number of years, I see how easily we all
fall into this trap. We respond to questions that are asked by straight
away quoting from some confession or systematic theology, as if to say
that they hold the same authority as Scripture. The pre-requisite of
systematic theology is good and honest Biblical Theology (i.e. a book by
book approach or Author approach to a subject), rather than jumping into
a logical systematic theology. Are they and I right?
YES-nothing apart from Scripture is authoritative.
5. "Zwingli's idea of the idea of the unity of the covenant of grace"
6. A discussion on the word "covenant"
BOTH THESE POINTS WILL BE WELL WORTH DISCUSSING>
JULIAN
Sincerly, Julian
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