In regard to this whole matter, the central idea that must be kept in mind is that what we refer to as "freedom of religion" is a "legal" concept, defined by courts. Within our legal system, individuals have a range of freedoms with respect to their religious faith, and "churches" have rights that are derivative from the rights of the individuals. (What I mean is that a "church", as such, has no rights. However, as a conglomeration of individuals in agreement, the "church" partakes of the rights of the individuals.) The right to "free exercise of religion" guarantees to each individual the right to "freely exercise" his religion, without unjustified interference by the state. When any act becomes a matter of controversy, courts must examine the act and the actor and determine whether, under the specific facts, that act by that actor is an act in "exercise of religion." As you can imagine, the analysis is very fact specific and fact-driven. What constitutes a "free exercise of religion" for one person may not be a "free exercise of religion" for another. A good example is the wearing of beards. If a man is a member of a religion that requires a man to remain unshaven, then the law cannot require him to shave. On the other hand, if a man's religion does not require him to remain unshaven, but he just likes to have a beard, then there is no "religious freedom" issue if he is required to shave it off. Thus, a domestic police force may require all policemen to be clean-shaven, but must also make allowance for those whose religion forbids them to shave. A Sikh, for example, employed by a domestic police force, could not be forced to shave or fired for not shaving. For the Sikh, it is a religious act, for the other man, it is just a preference. In regard to counseling, the question in each case would be whether, under the facts of that case, the counseling was a part of the "free exercise" of the religious rights of the counselor. In the case at issue, it was apparently his "vocation" outside of his ministry, that is, he performed counseling for others, not within his religious tradition or the requirements of his faith, but as a secular job. Therefore, the court held, under those facts, his practice of counseling would not be an "exercise of religion" and, therefore, the state's laws can limit his right to practice by making him liable for malpractice. By separating his ministry from his vocation, he makes clear that his vocation is not an exercise of religion. In the same way, when I am driving to visit a parishioner (a religious duty), I am not insulated from liability for negligent driving. If I drive recklessly and hit a child while driving on a religious duty, I can still be sued for reckless driving, because the "driving" was not part of the religious duty, merely a secular thing I did in connection with a religious duty. On the other hand, if someone sued him for "bad preaching," the court would immediately kick the suit out. Why? Because preaching is inherently a religious activity. In each case, the courts will examine a man's claim that his act was an exercise of religion, and will broadly construe that term in most cases, but will not merely accept a man's word for it. If a man's life is inconsistent with his claim, for example, the court may find the claim to be invalid. An example of this occurred in Michigan, where a Methodist church (if I remember correctly) hired a woman to be associate pastor. After some years, a new pastor came to the church, who objected to a woman being associate pastor. She was fired and sued for sex discrimination. The court noted that the First Amendment absolutely protects a church's decisions in regard to the religious qualifications for ministry and that, in most cases, the First Amendment would prohibit such a suit. However, the court went on to make a logical but really scary point. The court noted that if the church's religious convictions prohibited a woman from being associate pastor, then her claim would be barred. However, the court also noted that the church's convictions did not, in fact, prohibit a woman from being an associate pastor, as proven by the fact that the church hired her for the job and let her keep it for years. Since the church's actions "proved" that the gender issue was not disqualifying, then the church could not claim that firing her because of her sex was an "exercise of religion" that was constitutionally protected. The moral of the story: Be consistent. If your testimony by actions is inconsistent with your later claim to constitutional protection, the court will not protect your inconsistent actions. A church that is offering "counseling" needs to make absolutely clear that its actions are a direct result of its religious convictions, that its counseling is in line with and subject to the church's religious beliefs, and that the counselors and their clients are aware of and agree with this reality. The church should not offer counseling to unbelievers for pay (because that is commercial activity, not religious activity). If the counseling is part of the church's ministry, as shown by the church's beliefs and structure, then the First Amendment will provide the maximum protection possible. But if a pastor has a side business of counseling, then he must be prepared to accept the same standards and liabilities that other secular counselors face. James W. Allen jallen@...