[soundofgrace] Re: [soundofgrace] Active obedience of Christ

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From: "Chad Richard Bresson" <breusswane@...>
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:29:17 -0400
So the only reason he lived was to fulfill prophecy?

Chad

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H Dorrington" <hjdinfl@...>
To: <soundofgrace@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Active obedience of Christ


> It almost did but not by the cross. Mt 2:14
> But He had some prophecy to fulfill before the cross.
>
> Chad Richard Bresson <breusswane@...> wrote:
> You haven't answered the question.
>
> Your scenario below could have been accomplished the same night the
> shepherds worshipped him.
>
> Chad Bresson
> Xenia, OH
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "H Dorrington"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Active obedience of Christ
>
>
> > Why did Jesus live?
> > 7In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our
> trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8which he lavished upon
> us, in all wisdom and insight 9making known to us the mystery of his will,
> according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10as a plan for the
> fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things
on
> earth. 11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined
> according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the
> counsel of his will,
> >
> > The Father willed it. What is the will of the Father?
> > This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ
Jesus
> came into the world to save sinners
> >
> > He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God."He takes away the
> first that He may establish the second. 10By that will we have been
> sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
> > (Christ's Death Perfects the Sanctified)
> > 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the
> same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But this Man, after He
> had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of
> God, 13from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool.
14For
> by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
> >
> > John recognized him early and declared Him to be the Lamb of God. John
> saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes
> away the sin of the world!
> >
> > It appears He lived to die and shed Hid blood to reconcile us to the
> Father. "For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should
> dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether
things
> on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His
> cross."
> >
> > Harry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chad Richard Bresson
> wrote:
> > I think we're all agreed as to *why* Jesus died. But that does not begin
> to
> > answer the equally significant question....
> >
> > Why did Jesus live?
> >
> > Chad Bresson
> > Xenia, OH
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "H Dorrington"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Active obedience of Christ
> >
> >
> > > Do we need to have a law earned righteousness credited to our account
or
> > can we become the sons of God and have the righteousness that is
Christ's
> > imputed to us by His grace? Eph 1:4 "just as He chose us in Him before
the
> > foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before
> Him
> > in love, 5having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to
> > Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6to the praise of
the
> > glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved. 7In Him
> we
> > have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to
> the
> > riches of His grace"
> > > Harry
> > >
> > > John Reisinger <24jreisinger26@...> wrote:
> > > This is probably a dumb question, but as the Dutchman says, "It
wonders
> > me."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > . If the perfect righteousness of Christ earned by keeping the Law is
> > imputed to us then why would we need a sacrifice for sin since we would
> > already be accounted as perfectly righteous?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Likewise, if forgiveness of sin was all that was imputed to us through
> > Christ's cross work would we not be in a kind of "limbo?" Would we be
not
> > guilty because we were forgiven and therefore could not be condemned and
> > lost, but not justified because we did not have an earned righteousness
> > credited to our account? Hence the necessity of the righteous life of
> > Christ, in addition to his death, being imputed to us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JGR
> > >
> > >
> >
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