Ah, but the just shall live by faith not the law.
Romans 9:30 What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; 31but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. 32Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, 33as it is written, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame."
The context of Gal 3:12 is important:
Gal 3:10For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them." 11Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith." 12But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them." 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us--for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"--
Chad says: "Righteousness/eternal life only comes through keeping the law to perfection, a point that Christ emphatically impresses on the lawyer who challenged him" Contrast that with Abraham and what Scripture tells us about him "his faith was "counted to him as righteousness." But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone, but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our righteousness/justification."
Now if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. Since to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.
This is the problem of holding to the covenant of works. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works.
Harry
Chad Richard Bresson <breusswane@...> wrote:
Righteousness/eternal life only comes through keeping the law to perfection,
a point that Christ emphatically impresses on the lawyer who challenged him:
Leviticus 18:5
You shall therefore keep my statutes and my rules; if a person does them, he
shall live by them: I am the Lord.
Nehemiah 9:29
And you warned them in order to turn them back to your law. Yet they acted
presumptuously and did not obey your commandments, but sinned against your
rules, which if a person does them, he shall live by them
Ezekiel 18:5-9
"If a man is righteous and does what is just and right- 6 if he does not eat
upon the mountains or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel,
does not defile his neighbor's wife or approach a woman in her time of
menstrual impurity, 7 does not oppress anyone, but restores to the debtor
his pledge, commits no robbery, gives his bread to the hungry and covers the
naked with a garment, 8 does not lend at interest or take any profit,
withholds his hand from injustice, executes true justice between man and
man, 9 walks in my statutes, and keeps my rules by acting faithfully-he is
righteous; he shall surely live, declares the Lord God.
Ezekiel 20:11, 13
I gave them my statutes and made known to them my rules, by which, if a
person does them, he shall live.They did not walk in my statutes but
rejected my rules, by which, if a person does them, he shall live;
Matthew 19:17
And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments."
Luke 10:28
And he said to him, "You have answered correctly; do this (i.e. the
commandments summarized in the greatest and second greatest commandments), and you will live."
Romans 10:5
For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the
person who does the commandments shall live by them.
Galatians 3:12
But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them."
----- Original Message -----
From: "H Dorrington"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re: Active obedience of Christ - Jack to Harry
> For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about,
> but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed
> God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Now to the one who
> works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one
> who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is
> counted as righteousness,
>
> On the contrary, the errant assumption is that obedience to the law can
> save us rather than faith. What is counted as righteousness the works of
> law obedience or faith?
>
> That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on
> grace.
>
> Harry
>
> Chad Richard Bresson
wrote:
> I think you understand the context... it's not a red herring. Christ was
> obedient because God demanded obedience to the law. The errant assumption
> is that God never demanded obedience to the law for salvation in the first
> place.
>
> Chad Bresson
> Xenia, OH
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H Dorrington"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re: Active obedience of Christ - Jack to Harry
>
>
>> Chad, isn't this one of what you have called in the past a "red herring"?
>> Christ was obedient. Remeber His words in Mt 26 ""My Father, if it be
>> possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as
>> you will."
>>
>> That is obedience!
>>
>> Harry
>> Chad Richard Bresson wrote: ----- Original Message -----
>> From: I am having difficulty understanding how those who do not see this can explain how we are no longer bound by the Law, when neither our Substitute (in this view), nor we ourselves rendered the obedience due to God.
>>
The only "out" is to suggest that obedience was never due God to begin
with. And it's worth noting that this is a fundamental point of the New Persepective.
>>
>> Chad Bresson
>> Xenia, OH
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