Yes but it doesn't "tell us that Abraham was only righteous
through perfect obedience to the law."
And yes Abraham did die.
Harry
Chad Richard Bresson <breusswane@...> wrote:
Further, you're only telling half the story with Abraham. Genesis 26:5 says
God's eternal blessings for Abraham are because he obeyed his commandments.
It says nothing about "faith". Had Abraham not obeyed, he would have died
as a covenant breaker (Genesis 17:14).
Chad Bresson
Xenia, OH
----- Original Message -----
From: "H Dorrington"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Active Obedience of Christ
> So Scripture was wrong in declaring that there are none righteous by
> observing the law,
> no not one?
>
> "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the
> law; rather, through the law we became conscious of sin. But now a
> righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the
> Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through
> faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all
> have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely
> by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God
> presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood."
>
> Chad says: "Yes, and the scriptures (Romans 10, Leviticus 18, Nehemiah 9,
> Luke 10,
> Galatians 3, etc.) also tell us that Abraham was only righteous through
> perfect obedience to the law."
>
> No it doesn't. See Romans 10:10; Gal 3:5 "Does he do it by the works of
> the Law or by the hearing of faith? Just as Abraham believed God by faith
> and it was counted to him for righteousness." Leviticus 18 and Luke 10
> don't even mention Abraham! While Nehemiah mentions him only by his
> covenant saying he was faithful.
>
> Harry
>
> Chad Richard Bresson
wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "H Dorrington"
>> Ah, but the just shall live by faith not the law.
>
> That's not what Romans 10:5 and Galatians 3:12 say. Those passages tell us
> (a la Leviticus 18) that the just (righteousness/eternal life) only live
> by
> keeping the law to perfection.
>
>> The context of Gal 3:12 is important:
>
> Yes... it's important... it tells us that eternal
> life/righteousness/justification only comes from obeying the law
> perfectly.
>
>>Abraham and what Scripture tells us about him "his faith was "counted to
>>him as righteousness."
>
> Yes, and the scriptures (Romans 10, Leviticus 18, Nehemiah 9, Luke 10,
> Galatians 3, etc.) also tell us that Abraham was only righteous through
> perfect obedience to the law.
>
> Chad Bresson
> Xenia, OH
>
>
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