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From: "Steve Fuchs" <SteveF_MS@...>
>Applying this to Piper's situation in Eph 6:24, believing the grace was 
>conditioned 'presumes' that the condition IS the >work of the recipient.

Correct.  Despite what is claimed by those making this kind of assertion, 
one cannot speak of "condition" without also invoking "causality".

>Is becoming one who 'love's our Lord Jesus Christ with a love 
>incorruptible'  an act we accomplish of our own doing?
>Or is it a description of who God has made His elect to be?

And now we're seeing *why* "obedience for life" in the garden has everything 
to do with justification and the way NPP/Shepherd/Fuller/Wright would have 
us understand the nature of "grace" and its relationship with justification. 
Monkey with a notion of grace that has "conditions" in the garden and 
eventually justification is compromised.

Chad Bresson
Xenia, OH