----- Original Message ----- From: "H Dorrington" <hjdinfl@...> > Whoa. Who is putting Romans 10:5 before Romans 3:21? > "For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law...But the > righteousness of faith speaks in this way..." > Romans 10:5 is not a Pauline endorsement of the righteousness of the law > but just the opposite! Yes it is. He both affirms righteousness by the law and outside of the law within two verses. Both are true. The only *reason* righteousness cannot be through the law for a sinner (this is the case being made in the whole of Romans) is because of man's inability to keep a law that would save him if he could keep it (Gal. 3:12). >Read the verses before 10:5 and see that Paul describes the righteousness >of the law as a false righteousness. Why >should we also be ignorant? >"They have a zeal for God but not according to knowledge." Right. They rightly understood that perfectly obedience to the law would get them righteousness. They wrongly understood (not according to knowledge) that they had the wherewithall to keep the law. There's a reason *why* the Jews in Christ's day and the Roman Catholic Church believe that obeying the law brings salvation: because the whole of the canon says so. They don't have to do any finagling of the text to get them to their works oriented salvation. They rightly understand "obedience for life". They wrongly understand that man has any capability of doing what is necessary (perfection) for "obedience for life." Chad Bresson Xenia, OH