Greetings: Have been off the list for some years - as a pastor I have a practical problem and would like some response from any and all - not just from pastors. Situation: A man goes to jail for some very serious crimes. He professes faith in jail and joins a church when released. It then is revealed that there are many crimes for which he was not convicted. He did confess to 15 more crimes while in jail but refused to provide the police with DNA evidence of help them resolve the crimes. The police begin a new investigation when it is revealed that he was in danger of relapse. He refuses to co-operate. The crime - and diagnosis "predatory pedophilia". He had kidnapped at knife point, and video taped for 5 hours, two boys and a girl, aged 8-10. Later, he made a full confession to the church which turned out to be very selective - blamed the crimes on drinking when the police reports indicate sober premeditation - rented the camera the day before and prepared the basement etc. - and he failed to mention the kidnapping and death threats - or the fifteen other victims. At the time of his full confession he had, without the knowledge of the pastor, been having children sleeping over. Questions: 1. Should such be allowed as members? 2. What precautions if any, do we take? 3. Is true repentance indicated by restitution or co-operation with the magistrates? 4. If he refuses to co-operate with the police - they want him to have a curfew and stay away from children and he is fighting the court order - and they want him to help solve the other 15 cases and do his time for them - is he then to be put under church discipline? We do have a brother who had done time for Break and Enters - theft - then he was saved and a member for 5 years. He slipped and went back on drugs and did three BNE's. I advised him to turn himself in to the police and report the crimes. He did and is serving 1.5 years - he was on parole at the time. He will be out in 6 months and is doing very well in prison without drugs, being a witness to others. 1. If he refused to co-operate with the police would you put him under discipline? Both cases are real to us. What say, my friends. How do we deal with these issues?