Hebrews 10:26
 
Willfully                      Deliberately                 Keep on sinning        Go on sining
 NASB                           NIV                              NIV                        NASB
 KJV                              NLT                              NLV                       AMP
 NKJV                            HCSB                                                        ESV
 ASV                             ESV
 AMP   (uses both)         AMP  
 KJ21
 YLT
 DARBY
 WYC
 
sin        Hamartano  "to be without a share in"
willfully  Hekousios   "voluntarily, to sin wilfully as opposed to sins committed        
                                inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness"
 
I don't see any translation that denies this as a verse about apostacy. True, some are more clear. In fact the Message is suprising clear! "If we give up and turn our backs on all we've learned, all we've been given, all the truth we now know, we repudiate Christ's sacrifice."
 
 Harry

John Reisinger <24jreisinger26@...> wrote:
I agree that all modern translations are guilty as charged. However, when
the KJV adds words in italics it is clearly telling you those words have
been added. I was thinking of passages like Roman 8:3 where "flesh" refers
to the sinless nature of Christ and the KJV tranlayes it "sinful flesh." In
one case it is then justification and in the other case it sanctification.
Likewise in Hebrews 10:26 the KJV says "wilful sin" which I think is
referring to the specific sin of apostacy. It may (?) refer to "keep on
sinning" as in the NIV but I doubt it. Either view can be preached from the
KJV but I have to "correct" the NIV in order to teach my view - and who am I
to contradict those great scholars.

rom: "H Dorrington" 

> "The NIV is dangerous in one aspect in that it takes liberties beyond true
translation. It does not translates problems into the text leaving each
person to solve the problem with his theology, as the KJV does, the NIV
gives you their "interpretation" without you knowing there is a problem. If
their theology is correct, fine, if not, then you have "bad theology" in the
Bible texts."
>
> Is there a modern translation that doesn't do that to a certain degree?
>
> Did the King James really accomplish that or are we just used to the King
James? They did seem to add a lot of italicized words to the text.
>
> Harry
>
> John Reisinger <24jreisinger26@...> wrote:
> From: "Terry Rayburn"
> Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible
>
>
> snip snip
> >
> > 1. The NIV is still wildly popular (unfortunately)
> > I believe our beloved JGR is a fan.
>
> The word "fan" is not quite correct. I use it the same as I would a
> commentary - "one of many." I still believe the KJV is the most
> theologically correct even though the most difficult to read. I have long
> believed that if the "KJV" only crowd, and the rerst of evangelicalism,
had
> done nothing but remove obsolete words every 50 years we would never have
> had any other translation. It is the "KJV is inspired crowd" that are
> indirectly partly responsible for the new translations. Once an "easier to
> read" translation came on the market the flood gates were open.
>
> The NIV is dangerous in one aspect in that it takes liberties beyond true
> translation. It does not translates probems into the text leaving each
> person to solve the problem with his theology, as the KJV does, the NIV
> gives you their "interpretation" without your knowing their is a problem.
If
> their theology is correct, fine, if not, then you have "bad theology" in
the
> Bible texts.
>
> I usually preach out of the KJV simply because it offends no one. If by
far
> the majority of the congregation uses the NIV (or any other translation) I
> will preach from it.
>
> I do encourage new Christians to read straight thru a modern trnaslation,
> even "Good News for Modern Man," a couple of times just to get acquainted
> with the over all facts and major players. One of the great tragedies
today
> is that new converts start reading thelogy books before they have a basic
> understanding of their English Bibles.
>
> Blesssings on you and yours. As always, I appreciate your posts. JGR
>
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