Don't worry, Spurgeon is amillenial now! ;-) Harry Ian Major <ian.major@...> wrote: Peter Masters and the church have done tremendous work, in quantity and quality, for the kingdom of God. Check out the website for an idea. http://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/ My first encounter with them was through 'The Sword & Trowel'. As I recall, they recommenced publication of this sometime after Masters took the church out of the Baptist Union. Anyway, it was responsible for a big maturing of my walk, a sobering-up to responsibilities in the light of what God had done for me. The 'Tab' also provided an excellent bookshop for solidly Reformed material. And their evangelistic zeal completely refuted the idea that being 5-point Calvinists means apathy in outreach. Their sunday school work is also an inspiration. We would not go along with Peter Masters on his sabbath views, but anything he says is well worth hearing. In short, Spurgeon's witness is alive and well in his former church, in regards to Calvinism, Evangelism and Separation. That is not to say it is identical: lessons have been learnt. I think Masters is more cautious about who enters his pulpit than Spurgeon was, for Masters has seen the outcome of giving credibility misguided brothers. Masters also is Amillennial where Spurgeon was Premillennial. Hope that helps. In Him Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pasta Pete" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re: [unspam] Re: [soundofgrace] Michael Quicke Ouch - thanks Ian...That's why I was asking the question - as I understand that just because it has Spurgeon name - that doesn't necessarily mean it holds to his views. Do you, or and if so, how do you see Peter Masters doing in terms of carrying on the legacy of the "Prince of Preachers"? _______________________________ Peter Charlebois Pastor; First Baptist Church 308 Red River Road Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada P7B 1B1 (807) 345 8536 (Office) - (807) 344 0961 (Fax) "Only one life, T'will soon be past only what's done for Christ will last" (C.T. Studd) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Major To: soundofgrace@... Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: [soundofgrace] Re: [unspam] Re: [soundofgrace] Michael Quicke Dear Peter Spurgeon's College of today is NOTHING spiritually to that of Spurgeon's day. Spurgeon stood against the apostasy, leading the war against the Downgrade in the Baptist Union of his time. Spurgeon's College is part of that apostate denomination now. Compromised evangelicals among its staff may have Spurgeon's name on their lips, but not his beliefs. The real heir to Spurgeon's mantle today is Dr. Peter Master's, pastor of Spurgeon's church, the Metropolitan Tabernacle at the Elephant and Castle, London. In Christ Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pasta Pete" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:34 PM Subject: [unspam] Re: [soundofgrace] Michael Quicke No I haven't heard him at all - I am a pastor in a BCOQ church - founded and grounded in McMaster Divinity School - where Clark Pinnock has been teaching for many years. I see that Mac is having him come to speak in their preachers conference - and given the history of apostasy that McMaster and Dr. Pinnock continue to expound - I was shocked to see Mr Quicke's esume - with reference the Spurgeon's College. I wondered if I was missing something - or if it would be worth a listen _______________________________ Peter Charlebois Pastor; First Baptist Church 308 Red River Road Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada P7B 1B1 (807) 345 8536 (Office) - (807) 344 0961 (Fax) "Only one life, T'will soon be past only what's done for Christ will last" (C.T. Studd) ----- Original Message ----- From: H Dorrington To: soundofgrace@... Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Michael Quicke I would like to hear him! But I don't think "he was principle of Spurgeon's College in London" now if you had said principal I would have had to agree. Does he have any tapes? Harry Pasta Pete wrote: Gentlemen: http://www.seminary.edu/faculty/michael_quicke.html I wonder if you know of this person - Michael Quicke of Northern Theological Seminary in Chicago, and if he might be worth hearing? Says he was principle of Spurgeon's College in London - it peeked my interest. What'd ya think? _______________________________ Peter Charlebois Pastor; First Baptist Church 308 Red River Road Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada P7B 1B1 (807) 345 8536 (Office) - (807) 344 0961 (Fax) "Only one life, T'will soon be past only what's done for Christ will last" (C.T. Studd) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/2004 -- Read the Sound of Grace pages at http://www.soundofgrace.com To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... To view our online archive go to our web page at http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! -- Read the Sound of Grace pages at http://www.soundofgrace.com To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... 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