They only enter heaven if they are elect. Everyone of us is condemned already in Adam. SPB > -----Original Message----- > From: Pasta Pete [SMTP:psalm119@...] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:21 PM > To: soundofgrace@... > Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re:age of accountability > > I think what MacArthur is arguing is that the sin nature is present - but > NOT the sin action. Sin nature does not condemn but only sinful actions - > therefore since a unborn child has not acted upon or has not acted > consistent with, his sin nature they are not condemned and thus enter > heaven. > > I was quite surprised when I heard him make the claim, as if anyone who > did not see it as crystal clear as he appprarently did - was so incredibly > blind to the testimony of scripture that they hardly deserved to be in the > ministry. Clearly - it's not so clear! > > This is not an academic issue for us at our church right now - as just > last Lord's Day a 3 week premature child died of complications from a > disease he was born with. I'd ask you folks to keep the family of little > Simeon in pray along with the parents Scott and Jenn. > > I am praying with the assurance of him in the Lord's presence right now - > confident although wide open to this conversation. > _______________________________ > Peter Charlebois > Pastor; First Baptist Church > 308 Red River Road > Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada P7B 1B1 > (807) 345 8536 (Office) - (807) 344 0961 (Fax) > > "Only one life, T'will soon be past > only what's done for Christ will last" (C.T. Studd) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Reisinger > To: soundofgrace@... > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:31 AM > Subject: [soundofgrace] Re:age of accountability > > > Individuals only become guilty when they commit there first sin and > every > baby has already committed their first sin when they sinned in Adam, > Romans > 5:12-14. The "age of accountability" ended in the Garden for all men, > included babies. JGR > > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 24/11/2004 > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > > >