John,
I understand what you are saying. As in Adam all die, so in Christ are all
made alive. So, is not the first  death of the infant (physical - not
spiritual- as in hell, the second death) a result of Adam's sin, not the
Childs, as the child has not sinned. The child dies because
i) it does have a sin nature
ii) it has sinned vicariously - not actually - in that Adam sinned

thus all (except Christ) are mortal because in Adam all die.
The child can die, while not being actually guilty of sin, as it has a sin
nature and is a descendant of Adam.

Wm.





-----Original Message-----
From: John Reisinger [mailto:24jreisinger26@...]
Sent: 04 December 2004 14:26
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Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re:age of accountability



From: "Pasta Pete" <psalm119@...>
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re:age of accountability


I think what MacArthur is arguing is that the sin nature is present - but
NOT the sin action. Sin  nature does not condemn but only sinful actions -
therefore since a unborn child has not acted upon or has not acted
consistent with,  his sin nature they are not condemned and thus enter
heaven.

JGR  But the child could not die if were not actually guilty and deserving
of death. This argument is the same as saying there is a universal atonement
but God sovereignly limites it benitifs in soverelugh election. We must
start with the clear biblical fact that infants are guilty sinners only die
because they actually sinned in Adam

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