Joe,

I made it quite clear in an earlier post that the blood of Christ must
redeem the infant from the sin nature. But God makes it clear the infant
does not need to be redeemed from actual sins, having none. They will be
singing "Worthy..." The position I hold does justice to BOTH sides of the
issue - both types of texts.
Wm.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph R. Terrell [mailto:pastor@...]
Sent: 04 December 2004 16:01
To: soundofgrace@...
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Re:age of accountability


Wm.

If what you say is true, then the child is in heaven, not because of the
redemptive work of Christ, but because of his personal innocence.  According
to your argument (if I understand it correctly) only the child's physical
resurection at the last day can be attributed to Christ's death.  If this is
so, then not everyone in heaven will be singing, "Worthy art thou for thout
hast refeemed us by the blood..."  Instead, it will be appropriate for those
dying in infancy (or the womb) to sing, "Worthy are we, for we never
sinned."

Once again, let me emphasize that I am not arguing for or against the
salvation of infants, just whether or not they be sinners worthy of
everlasting judgment.  If I am wrong in my analysis and use of your belief,
let me know.

Joe T

----- Original Message -----
From: "William and Dorothy Oosterman" <tulip01@...>
To: <soundofgrace@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:39 AM
Subject: RE: [soundofgrace] Re:age of accountability


> John,
> I understand what you are saying. As in Adam all die, so in Christ are all
> made alive. So, is not the first  death of the infant (physical - not
> spiritual- as in hell, the second death) a result of Adam's sin, not the
> Childs, as the child has not sinned. The child dies because
> i) it does have a sin nature
> ii) it has sinned vicariously - not actually - in that Adam sinned
>
> thus all (except Christ) are mortal because in Adam all die.
> The child can die, while not being actually guilty of sin, as it has a sin
> nature and is a descendant of Adam.
>
> Wm.

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