[soundofgrace] RE: [soundofgrace] Are all Christians ministers? we ask the men to be silent also

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From: "William and Dorothy Oosterman" <tulip01@...>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 02:19:01 -0600
Charlene,

A year ago I was preaching and a female member, long known as a grumbler,
took it public. She came up to the pulpit during the message and began to
argue with me concerning the message. It was not pleasant and certainly
would be included in the scope of what Paul teaches as wrong.

I had the privilege of testifying before our Justice Committee (Similar to
your Senate Committees) on the issue of same sex marriage. It is made up of
15 MP's from various parties. A female MP said, after my presentation

"So you believe in the whole Bible? The Bible teaches that a women is to be
silent in the church. Do you preach that and practice that."

My answer "Yes, and we ask the men to be silent also so that I can preach!"

Wm.





-----Original Message-----
From: Roundrocke@... [mailto:Roundrocke@...]
Sent: 29 January 2005 22:35
To: soundofgrace@...
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Are all Christians ministers?


Bro Harry - I have learned by reading your posts to have much  respect for
your study, so am sure that you already know the Scriptures I would  turn
to,
however, I will "find" them and post some to you if you  like.
My real response is about Paul telling women to "sit down and  be quiet, and
ask their husbands at home".......I have been taught that that was
addressing
a specific problem in Corinth, but yet applies to us in some  areas.  Women
should not cause a disturbance in church (or anywhere  else!)....worship
services should not be disrupted by people loudly asking  questions, which
is what I
have been told was happening.
Women definitely are to be ministers - and I do not mean  preachers.   The
older women are to teach the younger how to be good  wives and mothers.
That
is a ministry.   Personally, I  teach small children in Sunday School, as
well
as volunteer as Church Secretary,  both of which I consider part of my
ministry.   Hopefully, I minister  to my husband in many ways....taking care
of the
home and now the grandchildren,  trying to meet his needs.   My home is my
1st
ministry, then my  neighborhood.....my family, and when I had a job, my
office
was a place of  ministry.
Maybe that will give some help - minister comes from the same  root as
servant (as I understand it), so, in that sense, we all are  ministers.
Blessings
Charlene

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