[soundofgrace] RE: [soundofgrace] Are all Christians ministers? we ask the men to be silent also

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From: "William and Dorothy Oosterman" <tulip01@...>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:18:29 -0600
Member of Parliament - our main gov. house.

Wm.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph R. Terrell [mailto:pastor@...]
Sent: 30 January 2005 13:29
To: soundofgrace@...
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Are all Christians ministers? we ask the men
to be silent also


Dear Wm,

Forgive the ignorance of a Yank from the south, but what is an MP?  Minister
of Parliament?

Joe T


----- Original Message -----
From: "William and Dorothy Oosterman" <tulip01@...>
To: <soundofgrace@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 2:19 AM
Subject: RE: [soundofgrace] Are all Christians ministers? we ask the men to
be silent also


> Charlene,
>
> A year ago I was preaching and a female member, long known as a grumbler,
> took it public. She came up to the pulpit during the message and began to
> argue with me concerning the message. It was not pleasant and certainly
> would be included in the scope of what Paul teaches as wrong.
>
> I had the privilege of testifying before our Justice Committee (Similar to
> your Senate Committees) on the issue of same sex marriage. It is made up
> of
> 15 MP's from various parties. A female MP said, after my presentation
>
> "So you believe in the whole Bible? The Bible teaches that a women is to
> be
> silent in the church. Do you preach that and practice that."
>
> My answer "Yes, and we ask the men to be silent also so that I can
> preach!"
>
> Wm.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roundrocke@... [mailto:Roundrocke@...]
> Sent: 29 January 2005 22:35
> To: soundofgrace@...
> Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Are all Christians ministers?
>
>
> Bro Harry - I have learned by reading your posts to have much  respect for
> your study, so am sure that you already know the Scriptures I would  turn
> to,
> however, I will "find" them and post some to you if you  like.
> My real response is about Paul telling women to "sit down and  be quiet,
> and
> ask their husbands at home".......I have been taught that that was
> addressing
> a specific problem in Corinth, but yet applies to us in some  areas.
> Women
> should not cause a disturbance in church (or anywhere  else!)....worship
> services should not be disrupted by people loudly asking  questions, which
> is what I
> have been told was happening.
> Women definitely are to be ministers - and I do not mean  preachers.   The
> older women are to teach the younger how to be good  wives and mothers.
> That
> is a ministry.   Personally, I  teach small children in Sunday School, as
> well
> as volunteer as Church Secretary,  both of which I consider part of my
> ministry.   Hopefully, I minister  to my husband in many ways....taking
> care
> of the
> home and now the grandchildren,  trying to meet his needs.   My home is my
> 1st
> ministry, then my  neighborhood.....my family, and when I had a job, my
> office
> was a place of  ministry.
> Maybe that will give some help - minister comes from the same  root as
> servant (as I understand it), so, in that sense, we all are  ministers.
> Blessings
> Charlene
>
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