[soundofgrace] Re: [soundofgrace] Did Christ's active obedience to the law earn us righteousness?

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From: H Dorrington <hjdinfl@...>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:30:54 -0700 (PDT)
Tery,
I am also reminded of Stephen in the book of Acts.
 
Harry

Terry Rayburn <terryrayburn@...> wrote:
Harry,

I dug around a little and can't find the 
answer to the "women" question.

It did cause me to see another verse, though,
where the Jews "took up stones to throw at Him"
after Jesus declared "I AM" (John 8:59).

Whether the Jews were violating Roman law in 
actually trying to stone him (which would have
been the proper punishment for "blasphemy")
I'm not sure.

Terry Rayburn
Clarkville, Tennessee


--- H Dorrington wrote:

> Hi Terry,
> Good point. Were women offered the same level of protection
> under Roman law as were men?
> Still the contrast remains. The Law brings condemnation/death.
> The departure from the law was in the offering of forgiveness.
> 
> 
> Harry
> 
> Terry Rayburn wrote:
> Hi Harry,
> 
> Just a sidebar which doesn't directly answer your 
> question:
> 
> I've read in several places I can't remember specifically,
> that the Jews were not able to use capital punishment
> under Roman rule.
> 
> This is alluded to in John 18:31, "Then said Pilate unto them,
> Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews
> therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any
> man
> to death:"
> 
> So it's questionable whether Jesus was seriously calling their
> bluff, or just making a point about their hearts in this
> transition time between the Old and New Covenants.
> 
> Terry Rayburn
> Clarksville, Tennessee
> 
> --- H Dorrington wrote:
> 
> > There are many who hold to both a covenant of works with
> Adam
> > in the garden as well as the active obedience of Christ to
> the
> > law earning us righteousness as Christians.
> > 
> > Did Christ actively obey the Law?
> > 
> > Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another
> > man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman
> must
> > die."
> > 
> > Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another
> man's
> > wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and
> > the adulteress must be put to death."
> > 
> > That is the Law. Now contrast that to what is recorded in
> John
> > 8:1-11. Did Christ actively obey and submit to the law or
> did
> > He demonstrate His superiority to the Law? If He was
> obedient
> > to the Law then why was the woman forgiven and allowed to
> > live? Would not Jesus have been able to cast the first
> stone?
> > 
> > I know that some might dismiss this question saying that
> some
> > of the older manuscripts do not have this account and if all
> > of them did not have this account I would have already hit
> my
> > delete key.
> > 
> > Harry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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