[soundofgrace] Re: [soundofgrace] John 8:11 and Condemn

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From: H Dorrington <hjdinfl@...>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:23:35 -0700 (PDT)
So you are saying that acquired and merited does not equal earned?
So your theory of Christ doing what Adam could not do within the covenant of works
does not involve works?
 
 "Nowhere in that quote does Calvin say Christ merited grace" --> "By his obedience Christ truly acquired and merited grace for us." He did it us for us according to this quote, what did he do? He aquired and merited grace based upon His obedience. He earned it! (according to the quote!) 
 
Harry

"Chad R. Bresson" <breusswane@...> wrote:
>H Dorrington wrote:"By his obedience Christ truly acquired and >"merited *grace*" for us with 
>the Father, for as by the sin of Adam we were estranged from God and 
>destined to perish, so by Christ's obedience we are received into favor as 
>righteous" -- John Calvin

Like I said, that is a misreading of Calvin's quote. Calvin is not saying Christ earned the grace. Nowhere in that quote does Calvin say Christ merited grace. Christ gave us grace based on His merit. In fact, the last sentence interprets the first sentence. By Christ's obedience (merit), we are received into favor (the grace that flows from his merit). One cannot strip the first half of Calvin's quote from the last half and correctly interpret it.

Without Christ's merit, there would be no ground by which to grace us... Christ's merit is our grace.


And again, no one who holds to a covenant of works believes that Christ earned or merited grace. It is a misrepresentation of the position (certainly my own).


Chad Richard Bresson
Xenia, OH
http://breusswane.blogspot.com/

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