I think this comes down to what 'oversight' means.
Is oversight the pre-eminent goal, or is oversight simply a means for
teaching the body how to properly act out worship, and help them avoid
corrupting it's nature, meaning, and purpose?
I agree that the lip-service given to teaching by Kay Arthur doesn't wash,
but I also think it is all too easy for us to become legalistic with the
responsibility for oversight such that it becomes the end rather than 'A'
means.
steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "H Dorrington" <hjdinfl@...>
To: <soundofgrace@...>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Church Service
> Maybe I missed the post but did we ever establish that the duty of
> proclaiming the Word was restricted to just elders, or is it of course the
> duty of elders as well as the duty of the priesthood of all believers? It
> seems to me that there is a funnel down level of duty in that those who
> are more mature have the duty of teaching/discipling those who are less
> mature.
>
> In a teaching elder lead service are we now saying it is wrong for the
> elder to appoint or ask someone to share in the service by reading
> Scripture? If we really believe that it is wrong, then it is the
> responsibility of the elders to also collect the worship giving through
> the offering, is it not? Then we would have to say it is the duty of the
> elders to play the piano and organ as they proclaim the Word through
> music.
>
> So are the spiritual gifts restricted to elders?
>
> Harry
>
> Chad Richard Bresson <breusswane@...> wrote:
> 24jreisinger26@... wrote:
> >I attended a church service today that has a regular practice each week
> >>of
> a husband and wife team reading the Scripture and praying. The wife >read
> the Scripture and the husband led in prayer.
> >1. Does such a practice violate any Biblical principles?
>
> IMHO, it does. I have come to believe that what holds true for the
> "Proclamation of the Word" by elders encompasses the reading of the
> scripture and prayer, which are ministries of the word. IOW, I do not
> believe the text allows us to dichotomize corporate prayer and the
> Scriptures from the act of preaching as is our American habit.
>
> >2. Has anyone ever seen this practiced?
>
> No. It almost seems like an "inclusive" attempt to bring women into the
> visible aspects of worship... last week I was at the National Religious
> Broadcasters convention in which Kay Arthur got up to speak and precluded
> her "sermon" with a disclaimer that she was under the authority of her
> pastor and her husband, after which she delivered an expository sermon.
> That disclaimer seemed to be an attempt to get around the biblical
> mandates
> about proclamation... and it would seem that having the wife reading the
> scriptures and praying with her husband is the same kind of an attempt. In
> both instances, "the disclaimer" doesn't wash, IMHO.
>
> --
> Pastor Chad Richard Bresson
> Clearcreek Chapel
> Springboro, OH
> http://breusswane.blogspot.com
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