I don't believe I made that assertion anywhere. All have gifts. Not all gifts are equal, not all gifts have been given in equal measure, nor are all gifts equally authoritative. Authority and subordination do not deny spiritual equality. Spiritual equality does not depend on function or role within the church. All members serve, but all members do not serve equally in function or capacity. There is authoritative leadership within the spiritual equality of the church... a direct implication from the economic subordination within the equality of the Trinity. Again, this question isn't one of spiritual equality, but one of gender, authority, and nature of corporate worship. Pastor Chad Richard Bresson Clearcreek Chapel Springboro, OH http://breusswane.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Fuchs" <SteveF_MS@...> To: <soundofgrace@...> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Church Service > Chad, > > Can you show us where 'gifted' = 'qualified' in the text? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chad Richard Bresson" <breusswane@...> > To: <soundofgrace@...> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Church Service > > >>Are we not all ministers of the gospel? > > No. Witnesses to the gospel? Yes. Entrusted with the gospel? No. > > Like it or not, the scriptures *do* reflect differences in function, > responsibility, and relationship. The text does reflect hierarchy. It's > why some are *qualified* and some are not. Those qualifications reflect > hierarchy of relationship to the entrustment. > > -- > Pastor Chad Richard Bresson > Clearcreek Chapel > Springboro, OH > http://breusswane.blogspot.com > > On 2/27/06, H Dorrington <hjdinfl@...> wrote: >> >> I think both Terry and Moe make excellent points. One of the problems >> with the church today is that we pay someone else to do everything for >> us. >> We pay the elders to do the teaching and we pay the missionaries to do >> the >> witnessing and we then believe that we are doing all we can for the Lord >> and >> we are proud of it. Are we not all ministers of the gospel? >> >> Harry >> >> Terry Rayburn <terryrayburn@...> wrote: >> Don't beat around the bush, Moe, what do you >> really think? :) >> >> Seriously, I would consider banning women from >> reading the Bible in a church assembly as >> equivalent to the Pharisees under the Old Covenant >> outlawing a needle carried in a lady's apron. >> >> They were expressing an actual God-given scriptural principle >> of that time and place, (namely, no work on the Sabbath), >> but they were going beyond the scripture to their own >> extra-biblical application of that principle. >> >> That Pharasaic principle was this: better to err on the side >> of extra-strict adherance than to even allow the *possibility* >> of a violation. >> >> Godly Pharisees (yes, there were such) did so out of a >> true reverance for the Lord, ungodly Pharisees, of whom >> there were many, did it out of pure self-righteousness. >> >> But even that Pharasaic principle was beyond >> scripture, and thus a sort of self-fulfilling principle. >> >> While still despising sin and loving the precepts of the >> Lord in our hearts, yet we need to avoid over-exegeting >> some passages. >> >> A good test sometimes is to ask the question, "Should >> someone be disciplined vis a vis Matt. 18, and put out >> of the assembly for unrepentedly doing that?" >> >> Terry Rayburn >> >> Moe Bergeron wrote: >> Now brethren, I suspect some of you are control freaks and are guilty of >> a >> Gentile system of rule. You would have only the "duly authorized" >> distributing the elements or bringing a word of encouragement,etc.,. The >> end >> result is a bunch of spectators sitting beneath your chief seats. >> >> I have said it before and I will say it again. Pastors emasculate more >> men >> than all of the women libbers out there. >> >> Retreating quickly, >> moe >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Mail >> Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. >> -- >> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >> http://www.soundofgrace.com >> >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >> soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... >> >> To view our online archive go to our web page at >> http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >> >> >> >> > > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > > >