We don't know who the Esaus are or the Jacobs are. Future sheep are goats at the present and may be professing members. The *means* of moving them from goats to sheep are the warnings of Hebrews, James, etc. Pastor Chad Richard Bresson Clearcreek Chapel Springboro, OH http://breusswane.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Dorrington" <hjdinfl@...> To: <soundofgrace@...> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Acts 6 and deacons > Esau is a goat ...Goats will always be goats. Jacob is chosen ... Jacob is > a sheep ... Sheep will always be sheep. Goats never become sheep, nor > visa-versa.... > > Chad Richard Bresson <breusswane@...> wrote: It's not novel. It's > historically reformed. Moo is merely an example of > how most reformed commentaries handle Hebrews and James. > > And it's not true that goats will always be goats. Professing sheep are > constantly being pressed to make sure that their profession is a real one. > > Pastor Chad Richard Bresson > Clearcreek Chapel > Springboro, OH > http://breusswane.blogspot.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H Dorrington" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Acts 6 and deacons > > >> Lol, that is what always puzzled me about this novel view. Goats will >> always be goats. The sheep are the chosen ones, some have realized their >> new birth and others will. No point in warning goats. >> >> Harry >> >> Steve Fuchs wrote: >> Chad, >> >> I'm just curious your thoughts. >> >> What's the point of warning goats? >> >> Sincerely, >> Steve >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chad Richard Bresson" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 7:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [soundofgrace] Acts 6 and deacons >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "H Dorrington" >>> > Oh yes, the passage that tell us that the goats make great teachers! >>> > Not. >>> > It is rather describing those who are spiritual "babes" in Christ . >>> >>> I disagree. In giving them the benefit of the doubt, he is still holding >>> out the possibility that they are in danger of neglecting their >>> salvation. >>> What looks like a babe in Christ, if it never grows, is an imposter >>> (Heb. >>> 6:6-8 - same thought, same context). If they stay "dull of hearing" will >>> "end up being burned" (Heb. 6:8). >>> >>> The contrasts of the warning passages are almost exclusively, through >>> the >>> whole of the NT, between sheep and goats and almost never between >>> categories >>> of Christians. Those "categories" just don't exist. >>> >>> Pastor Chad Richard Bresson >>> Clearcreek Chapel >>> Springboro, OH >>> http://breusswane.blogspot.com >>> >>> -- >>> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >>> http://www.soundofgrace.com >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >>> soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... >>> >>> To view our online archive go to our web page at >>> http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >> http://www.soundofgrace.com >> >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >> soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... >> >> To view our online archive go to our web page at >> http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for >> low, >> low rates. >> -- >> Read the Sound of Grace pages at >> http://www.soundofgrace.com >> >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: >> soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... >> >> To view our online archive go to our web page at >> http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace >> >> > > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > -- > Read the Sound of Grace pages at > http://www.soundofgrace.com > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > soundofgrace-unsubscribe@... > > To view our online archive go to our web page at > http://www.associate.com/groups/soundofgrace > >