jay- thanks for all your great and wonderful work on the function to increase/decrease pointsize of selected text in an edit field. the routine is _sweet_, i tell you! :+) the function has some funkiness -- the leading doesn't seem to update, nor do the line breaks, a problem which i've seen before, and seen solved, too, but i get gaga in the toolbox and have no clue whether it's a pointer or a handle i use, or how to get either one anyway -- but let me tell you, the function is _heaven_ nonetheless. it's _so_ functional for my purpose, and it's just a 10-liner or so. wow. i love those. when i was wasting hours and hours and weeks and weeks trying to do it another way, i knew i shoulda just asked the list, that there was probably some easy way to do it. i don't know why i didn't do it sooner, but i'm glad i finally did. thanks again, jay... -bowerbird p.s. happy summer...