>jonathan said, > >function even under 8.6, this doesn't worry me. The problem is not with >FB^3, I hasten to add, but with me! I just managed to convert one of my smaller projects (3 include files, one global and a main) and got it working in FB3! Aw the sweet smell of success. One of my errors was naming the DIM RECORD and DIM RECORD END with the same variable. It didn't flag it as an error during compiles or anything else (contrary to what the conversion docs say) and it let me shove stuff into the records in a function, but once outside of the function it was gone. Somplace. Very far away. Never to be seen again. I compiled my corrected app as a 68K application (since it has a fair bit of inline assembler in it). It works exactly the same as the original FBII project. But...well it needs to go on a serious size diet. FBII App FB3 App Size : 203,652 Size : 330,552 The FB3 compiled app runs....slower. But only during the display portion of the program. Ie. drawing a bunch of data text lines to a window. FBII is significantly faster. Perhaps the inline asm code slows it down slightly (anyone got a native PPC TRUNCSTRING laying around?). So how do I cut 126,900K from the finished FB3 application? FB3 took it on itself to change the "suggested memory size" to a number I didn't put in my size resource. Matter of fact I don't know where it found the number but its almost twice the suggested size FBII used. So why put a size in a resource if the compiler is going to make its own suggestions? Odd bird this one. I know there's a lot of beta users here, so how do you get the references to your functions like the old project manager did? i.e. click on a function name and the next reference to it pops up in the editor window. Do you actually "need" all that extra function stuff in the FBIIrntm header file? Or do you just need the library references? Whats the difference between the lite, regular or fat free run time? Is there a list of what ToolBox commands the compiler supports (help only has a few)? How come in a compiled PPC app only, the main part of the code doesn't end up in the datafork as other compiled languages do? And does anyone see this as a problem? If the compiler is going to write in its own resources, can we get a list of them so we don't try and create the same ones? Is there a way to get rid of that blue background in the editor window but keep the styled text? How come window names can't be longer than about 6 or 7 characters? Mine all get chopped off. And it changed something in my OS since ALL my windows won't go beyond 6 or 7 characters now. I hope restarting will fix it. Disclaimer, I am not bashing FB3. Rather to the contrary, I think its going to be great in future releases. But it's got one mean learning curve for us FBII vets and the sooner I get a handle on it and manage to learn to stay out of its way, the better. Which means I get to ask a lot of dumb questions about how it works so I can best use it for my own programming style. Mel Patrick mel@...