On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Robert Spoecker wrote: > the coding in basic that relates to numbers and strings I can do well > at still but since GUIs have come into existence after I quit > programing this is a new experience for me. It is possible in FB (and FBtoC ) to create console only apps that have no GUI (except for a console window). This might be closer to what you've done before. Console apps PRINT to the console window. Brian S.