On Jan 27, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Rich Love wrote: > There is a problem with Appearance Buttons in FBtoC 1.02 This is acknowledged as a bug, but let me digress for a moment on topic that is obvious to some and many have heard me (and others) say before. If a program/app does NOT use FB windows and FB buttons (i.e. uses a nib for all windows and controls) these bugs don't come into play because the carbon events runtime handles all. Longer-term and strategically, nibs will help insulate your code from future changes by Apple. The use of Carbon Events (CE) and nibs will also help prepare your code to transition to the "next" (whatever that is) model. Those writing professional apps have a lot invested and are more likely to be impacted than the hobbyists Brian S.