Hello again, I am reading the manual and studying the samples diligently. I find the examples for making radio buttons, for instance very complicated. These examples are not one liners like the opening a file examples is. If there are empty place holders in the code (two commas) I have no idea what might have gone there if anything. Is there a reference I can buy somewhere that explains all of this? Is there some way to code a radio button, for instance, by just simply specifying the x,y coordinates of the button’s location on the opened window and the get a return value to indicate if it has been pushed or not? Something like: a = radioButton 1 , (x,y) , ”Button 1 title text” b = radioButton 2 , (x,y) , ”Button 2 title text” I know I am a bit naive to expect it that simple, but does it really have to be so complicated? Thank you for you patience with me. Robert S PS I think Robert S would be a good identifier for me as we have another Robert already.