On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:45 AM, Christopher Wyatt wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Brian Stevens wrote: > >>> Just trying to think through how to appeal to those of us living >>> with VB and RB, but pondering other tools. >> >> Many of the FBers (and now C users thanks to FBtoC) are folks who >> prefer a powerful procedural language instead of O-O languages >> like RB and Objective C. At least for me that is the major appeal. >> RB code does not impress me as elegant, efficient and concise like >> FB and C can be if written well. If not for the cross-platform >> feature I wouldn't consider RB at all. > > When I moved to the Mac in 2001 or so, RB was pretty much the only > tool I found that seemed familiar. Objective-C just wasn't even > close to what I knew. (I think Apple should have found a way to > keep supporting Pascal directly.) > > I'm not much of a fan of RB, as my posts on the RB mailing list > reveal. I actually prefer Delphi, but PowerBASIC is still a tool I > use when procedural code is ideal. (Anyone not familiar with > PowerBASIC -- it seriously flies due to the hand-optimized > compiler. No DLLs. No bloat.) > > I wish people didn't imagine OO was a magical elixir. Procedural > code is often faster, tighter, and better for many problems. > > FutureBASIC looks promising. I hope my participation with docs and > database issues helps in the long term. Christopher, I think there is going to be a lot in FB for you to like. I have used it to create several very nice procedural applications for my workplace over the last 10 years and it has never one time let me down. But now I have sipped the magical elixir of Cocoa and so my FB programming has been reduced. But I will always love FB, its amazing producers, and the fine community of fellow programmers.