Correction, I should have said: PICT-clipboard "works" in Leopard 10.5.6 (with my FB apps and Intaglio). New problem: My airport card is not recognized when the iMac is started from an external HD or the install CD. It's always something! > From: PZ <pierrezippi@...> > Reply-To: <futurebasic@...> > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:04:26 -0600 > To: <futurebasic@...> > Conversation: [FB] [X-FB sort of] Last Mac/OS that will write Quickdraw PICT > vector graphics > Subject: Re: [FB] [X-FB sort of] Last Mac/OS that will write Quickdraw PICT > vector graphics > > Thanks, Herbie. A few years back I asked this list about a suitable vector > graphics replacement for quickdraw-pict. At the time there seemed to be no > suitable replacement. Thus I continued to stretch the life line of my pict > apps. Illustrator dropped support for post-script text rotations embedded in > PICTs. Intaglio stepped in to save the PICT day. > > PICT-clipboard worked in Leopard 10.5.6. > I installed Leopard on an external HD and ran my apps, copied a PICT diagram > to the clipboard and pasted it into Intaglio. Presto! Vector elements. Just > as it should be. Life is good again. This will give me some time to make the > necessary changes for CoreGraphics, without my world coming to a complete > stop to do so. > > >> From: "H. Gluender" <h@...> >> Reply-To: <futurebasic@...> >> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:06:08 +0100 >> To: FB Mailing List <futurebasic@...> >> Subject: Re: [FB] [X-FB sort of] Last Mac/OS that will write Quickdraw PICT >> vector graphics >> >> Deep and others interested in this thread! >> >> Deep wrote: >> "I think that person who told you did not realise the difference between >> vector PICT and bitmap PICT, they are correct that PICT is still supported >> (hence bitmap PICT still works), but I do not think vector PICT is still >> supported as vectors, even Apple Preview opens a vector PICT file but treats >> it as bitmap from that point onwards." >> >> I suspect you are right with your conjecture concerning the Apple "expert". >> >> Fact is that when I had to definitely change to OSX nearly four years >> ago, I had to decide which software to buy that can replace my >> Classic applications without breaking my workflows too often. >> One of the great obstacles was vector graphics and at that time >> already (early OSX 10.4) PICT was treated as pixel graphics by the OS >> (Preview, Clipboard, etc.) and also by several graphics applications. >> Graphics in MSWord 2004 turned out being a real drama. >> >> Furthermore and at least at that time, most affordable vector >> graphics applications, Intaglio included, showed massive problems >> with the PDF format and with the EPS format as well (they are >> related formats). Mostly they did not correctly import, sometimes >> they didn't create correct PDF output. Import of vector PICT images >> wasn't possible with most applications and if it was, I wasn't happy >> with other features of the programs. >> The final solution was to export the graphics from my Classic >> graphics application as EPS and to import them to Adobe Illustrator >> that opens them perfectly (even very old EPS flavours) but evidently >> it is far from being affordable. However, using it is great fun and >> nearly obstacle-free. >> >> EPS format and Word 2004 is a different story though. In my >> experience Word-docs won't print (at least on my HP LJ2200) if there >> are more than two imported Illustrator EPS-graphics per page. PDF >> vector images are imported to Word 2004 as pixel graphics as are PICT >> vector images, and all the other formats accepted by Word 2004 are >> Win or pixel formats anyway. The solution I found is that the >> CS3-Illustrator EPS-format contains parts that Word doesn't like but >> that are in most cases unnecessary. So I wrote a little helper >> application that erases these annoying parts. Now there is no more >> trouble with EPS-graphics in Word 2004 except that the screen display >> is terribly bad. However, the printout is perfect. >> >> I agree with Deep that the PICT vector format issues with OSX are not >> due to a bug but to Apple's way of not yet totally breaking the >> support of the PICT format. In fact at times when I was looking for >> suitable OSX-applications, I realized that there was little to no >> discussions in Mac user forums about the then lousy support of vector >> graphics (professional layout products excluded). Most users still >> don't know and even realize the difference between vector and pixel >> graphics: shame! >> >> A final note regarding the EPS format: >> It is one of the oldest graphics formats and it really helped me a >> lot with saving thousands of graphics from Classic to OSX and with >> importing vector graphics to MSWord 2004 but according to Adobe, it >> is now also depreciated. The PDF-format is recommended instead. >> >> Just my few Euro-Cents >> -- >> >> Herbie >> >> ------------------------ >> <http://www.gluender.de> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: futurebasic-unsubscribe@... >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: futurebasic-unsubscribe@... >